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[123nic]

So as most of us are aware of, SSCS will likely purchase a new ship mere months from now with the purpose of battling it out with Japan's illegal whaling fleet. This thread which was originally available on POA did end up finding the ship that would become the Brigitte Bardot, and may prove a useful tool in finding SSCS's next conservation ship.

Based on commentary and updates, it's not completely clear whether SSCS will search out a fast interceptor or third large ship. When it comes to large ships, the desired characteristics might be similar to this:

- between 70 and 50 meters
- fast enough to outrun fast harpoon ships in ice
-helicopter capable with room for a helicopter hangar
-enough deck space for deltas
-at least 17.5 knots
-capable of holding at least 25 SSCS campaign volunteers
-large fuel capacity or the ability to have the range extended
-large bridge
-no less than 690 tons
-steel hull
-ice strengthened hull

When it comes to fast interceptors, the desired characteristics might be similar to this:
-between 30 and 50 meters
-top speed of 25 to 50 knots
-lightweight hull material such as aluminum
-capable of holding some sort of small watercraft
-large deck space
-capable of holding 7 to 20 SSCS campaign volunteers
-at least one month fuel capacity
-perhaps some sort of ice strength
-capable of holding together in a storm

My vote goes out for this thing: http://jp.apolloduck...phtml?id=246971

[AnimuX]

Wouldn't it be interesting if...

http://articles.lati...arship-20120503
http://news.yahoo.co...-172525837.html

http://media.zenfs.c...w/SeaShadow.jpg

[SKYLINE]

AnimuX, on 10 May 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

Wouldn't it be interesting if...

http://articles.lati...arship-20120503
http://news.yahoo.co...-172525837.html

http://media.zenfs.c...w/SeaShadow.jpg

That vessel is cool but it must be scrapped by purchaser as part of deal.

[123nic]

AnimuX, on 10 May 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

Wouldn't it be interesting if...

http://articles.lati...arship-20120503
http://news.yahoo.co...-172525837.html

http://media.zenfs.c...w/SeaShadow.jpg

Wow!!! I would almost pay to see a video of that thing in harsh weather conditions. Very neat ship though. So unusual.

[AnimuX]

Moved to the SSCS section.

[SarahHattrick]

If the Japanese Whalers saw that ship coming towards them I'm sure they would have something to say lol

[TyphoonOne]

Oooooo my old favorite thread is back!

I'm thinking we'll be seing something like this girl: http://commercial.ap...phtml?id=151942
She's come up before, and seems to be a nice mix between speed and size. Price isn't listed though, which makes me a bit weary.

[SarahHattrick]

It would make sense having something like that.   They need the speed that the Bardot has but something a tiny less breakable

[Suzzle]

TyphoonOne, on 12 May 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Oooooo my old favorite thread is back!

I'm thinking we'll be seing something like this girl: http://commercial.ap...phtml?id=151942
She's come up before, and seems to be a nice mix between speed and size. Price isn't listed though, which makes me a bit weary.

Hull - three layers of mahogany!!!!!! What is it? A bureau?

(I actually thnk this may be the ark - with a bit of refit)

[TyphoonOne]

Suzzle, on 13 May 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:

Hull - three layers of mahogany!!!!!! What is it? A bureau?

(I actually thnk this may be the ark - with a bit of refit)

The girraffes should be great at getting over the Yushins' nets!

[Suzzle]

TyphoonOne, on 13 May 2012 - 06:10 AM, said:

The girraffes should be great at getting over the Yushins' nets!

Excellent point. And the elephants would make marvellous water cannons.

[SKYLINE]

If only I could say something... haha
And I won't say anything more, chew on that.

[kerdoo]

TyphoonOne, on 12 May 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Oooooo my old favorite thread is back!

I'm thinking we'll be seing something like this girl: http://commercial.ap...phtml?id=151942
She's come up before, and seems to be a nice mix between speed and size. Price isn't listed though, which makes me a bit weary.

you can get a lot of ex military boats that are made out of wood (they dont set of sea mines) but wooden boats are more trouble than they are worth as they need to a lot of maintenance

[Frontliner]

Not to mention any sort of collision would be devastating, no way to patch the hull up at sea.

[TyphoonOne]

Yeah, did not catch the hull material line in the ad, ah well...

[Arch]

Its not a ship but might be a good path to look into.

http://www.defence.g...CurrentId=12048

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The Hon. Jason Clare MP
Minister for Defence Materiel.
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29 Jun 2011

MIN66/11

Reforms to Disposal of Military Equipment

Minister for Defence Materiel Jason Clare today announced reforms to the disposal of military equipment.

The Australian Defence Force is about to undertake the biggest disposal of military equipment since World War II.

Over the next 15 years the Australian Defence Force will replace or upgrade up to 85 per cent of its equipment.

As part of that, over the next ten years Defence will dispose of:

· up to 24 ships;

· up to 70 combat aircraft;

· up to 110 other aircraft;

· up to 120 helicopters;

· up to 600 armoured vehicles;

· up to 12,000 other vehicles; and

· a range of communications systems, weapons and explosive ordnance.

This represents 10 per cent of the current value of the entire Australian Government’s non-financial assets.

The disposal of military equipment provides an opportunity for Defence to generate revenue to be re-invested in new military equipment for Force 2030.

The British Government has generated ₤650 million (about $1 billion AUD) from their military equipment disposals since 1997.

Over the same period and with a similar number and type of assets, the disposal of Australian military equipment has cost around $20 million.

“That’s why I am reforming Australia’s system of military disposals – to reduce costs, generate potential revenue and provide opportunities for Defence industry involvement,” Mr Clare said.

Mr Clare said the first opportunity for the Australian Defence industry was the release of a Request for Proposal for the disposal of up to 24 Navy ships across the coming decade.

That includes HMAS Manoora, Adelaide Class frigates and Mine Hunters.

The Request for Proposal will be done in two parts:

• HMAS Manoora – submissions will close on 15 September 2011; and
  
• All other ships – submissions will close on 14 October 2011.

The latter will provide the flexibility for companies to bid for all ships, a class of ships or a single ship.

Ideas could include, but are not limited to, dismantling the ships and recycling the parts and sale within Australia or overseas.

A plan to dispose of up to12,000 Army vehicles has also been approved. This includes Land Rovers, Unimog trucks and Mack trucks.

This will likely see the sale of vehicles to companies who will repair and upgrade the vehicle and then on-sell them.

The Request for Proposal for the vehicle disposals will be released in July.

“By disposing of this equipment in bulk, it will increase the amount of revenue Defence can raise and reinvest in new equipment,” Mr Clare said.

“It also provides the scale which gives real opportunities for business.

“The money raised from the sale of these vehicles will be invested in Force 2030, with one option being into simulators used for training that will reduce the wear and tear on Army vehicles.”

Historically significant pieces of military equipment will still be made available to the Australian War Memorial, RSLs and other historical organisations for preservation.

For example, Mr Clare has directed that a number of these Army vehicles be offered exclusively to community or heritage organisations.

“One of the main goals of the disposals system is the preservation of our military history,” Mr Clare said.

“Flexibility will be maintained in the system to make sure that happens.”

Media contact: Korena Flanagan – 02 6277 7620

[Danilo]

I always loved this topic!

[Arch]

Range sucks but...

http://www.maritimesales.com/SWA10.htm

[kerdoo]

this is not a bad ship http://www.maritimesales.com/NAD10.htm

[ADA77]

How about a new flagship for SSCS?
http://commercial.ap...phtml?id=253988